"So, the Turand Family is also looking for the Frost Snow Phoenix Tree? Since Erwin also wishes to go to the Frost Snow Phoenix Tree, a conflict is bound to occur at that time. With the Turand Family as our support, our odds of victory will be higher—is that your plan? From this perspective, that Helldor is your spy? What exactly is his situation? The card you gave me shows that he is your Cardinal..."
The Cardinal before him shook his head and fell silent for a few seconds before speaking,
"Actually, I haven't started implementing the plan yet. It just occurred to me that we could use the power of the Turand Family to deal with Erwin. Only after my consciousness returned to the Northern Realm did I realize that my injuries were more severe than I had imagined. Moreover, Mr. Fisher should be aware that Erwin has also recently landed within the McDowell Feudal State."